How A Seventeen Year Old Entrepreneur Did $40K In Launches (Interview)

In this article, I’m interviewing Chris. He’s seventeen year old, and he’s a member of the Daily Business Hustle, and my mastermind.

Chris is already closing sales, he’s already an entrepreneur. He started with marketing and copywriting when he was fifteen, because of a couple of crazy life issues that he was having. He found school wasn’t going to lead to what he wanted, and that’s when he discovered internet marketing, and copy writing.

He didn’t pursue it with any real intent at first, because he was lazing around slacking off and procrastinating. But he hit a point where he’d had enough, and he wanted to figure it out.

He picked up Eben Pagen, and all the other marketing guru books, and studied them night after night like crazy. He was cold calling, and emailing all these different businesses. Off that he started to see some really good momentum come about from it (from fifteen, he started, and sixteen that’s when stuff started to really come together).

Right now he’s working with a couple of big companies in the dating market. He’s working with product launches, as well as sales, and copy writing. He’s writing copy for different funnels, and improving conversion rates. He has improved their upsell five times, which is a really good result (he got the information from Google analytics).

He’s also doing some work with some big guys, and helping them do some product launches: for a couple of books, and video courses coming out.

The first thing Chris would do, if he was just starting out, would be to watch my YouTube channel, as well as just starting something. He’s seen that many people procrastinate, because they don’t have a purpose, and they don’t know what to do with themselves.

Start thinking about what you want to do, what experiences you want to have, and what kind of life you want to live, the kind of people you want to bring into your life, and the kind of women or men you want to date.

Then from there, start seeking out the answers, whether it’s from books, whether it’s watching videos (like my YouTube channel), and then run with it from there to the bank.

For Chris, he decided that at some point or other, you’ve got to figure out what you want to do with your life (that’s what helped him to get started at 15). Get this figured out: what your life purpose is, and then go and make it happen, because if you wait, you don’t know how much time you have left. Make sure you’re valuing the time you have, and live every day to its fullest.

A lot of young people around Chris’s age think they’re going to be young forever, because they’re so young. The thing Is that time passes quickly, you have to catch it while it’s there, and if you don’t catch it, it’s going to pass you by. You’re going to find that five years pass, ten years pass, and you won’t be able to say you did anything you wanted: think about whether you pursued any desires, or any dreams, that you have had.

You have to take the steps to figure out what you want, and then take the steps to get there.

The number one skill that Chris recommends, is taking action, taking massive action, in whatever it is. The reason why Chris is here with me today, is because of networking. He got networked, and got into this mastermind, and most people wouldn’t do that.

Chris got on Facebook, sent me a couple of messages, and then we got on the phone and talked it out. Take action; take a lot of action in whatever it is.
There are a lot of different facets to it: structuring a sale, networking marketing, salesmanship – all these little facets which create a successful business.

It all boils down to your ability to take action, persist, and not give up.

There’s a good book called never be alone by Keith Razzy, and his mantra is build it before you need it. He’s found this to be a really good mind-set in terms of networks, because right now he’s just closed a deal, where he’s going to get twenty percent of all sales. This is going to be happening with a company which is doing six figures annually. It’s a coaching company, and all their courses are selling out in advance.

They’ve got the product, the staff, the skills, and everything for online marketing, but they didn’t have the guy to get them there, yet. Chris sent the head of the company (two years ago), a letter thanking him for the stuff that he’d taught, and how it had helped his life. He continued reaching out, because he didn’t get a reply straight away.

Chris persisted like crazy, and then the head of the company started replying back. He started a dialogue with him, building up a good relationship. Even though Chris was young, he was asking good questions, he was being respectful; he was treating him like a professional.

Little things like building up a network, and then two years later, because he’s built up the marketing skills, he can now reach out, and go to someone and say: “hey I know you’re really successful, , and I’ve learnt these new skills, how about we work together? I’d love to pay you back for all the stuff you’ve done for me.”

Chris deals with his young age, by acknowledging it, and then moving on. He’s going to be seventeen for a period of about eight months. So acknowledge your age, and that you don’t have experience, or the credentials, or whatever else it is.

What you do, to overcome the age barrier is to sell on your passion, because people respond to the energy you’re putting out into the world. If you’re sending a message, which is all boring, bland and vanilla type, no one’s going to respond to that.

But if you respond with gusto, and you’ve got energy in your voice, and you have that burning desire to make something happen, people are going to see that, people are going to resonate with that, and the guys who are at the top are going to see this, and they’ll have it too, so they’re going to give you chances. They’ll have the attitude of maybe this kid will implement what I teach him, I’m going to give him a chance, run with it, and make something happen from it.

In Asian culture, to get your parents over any doubts they have of what you’re doing, you show them the results, and that you’re working, that you aren’t slacking off, playing World Of Warcraft, and eating Tim Tams in your basement. Chris is hustling: cold calling businesses, making things happen, sending emails, getting clients, getting deals.

All these that you show them, will convince them that you commit, and that you have some skills. They want security, they want financial security for their kids. They don’t want anything bad for you, unless you have abusive parents.

Parents want you to be disciplined, they want you to have skills that are going to produce money, and they want to know you are going to be secure. If they don’t know that, if they’re not sure of this, they aren’t going to be happy. They’ll want you to go to school, study and get your work done.

When Chris could say one thousand came in this month, and there are a couple of other deals that he could bring in, which would be two thousand dollars. When you show them actual real numbers, and actual proof, they’ll be thinking that there’s something tangible. A lot people of the people to Chris speaks to, like friends, and relatives, they all suggest that he stays in school.

It’s a choice you have to make in terms of going after what you want. You can’t let other people decide what you’re going to do. If you let it happen, you aren’t going to be happy, and you’re not going to get what you want.

I remember we had a guy in the daily business hustle, and he was getting sales, but he couldn’t handle the pressure any more so he just quit. He does some shitty job now, and listens to his parents who say “you are a good little boy.” He’s not travelling the world as much, and he’s not going to have the opportunities now that Chris has.

If you’re under aged it’s still possible.

If you want to learn copy writing right now, and get proficient at it within the next six months, Chris’s advice would be to read the book the education of millionaires by Michael Ellsberg. It’s an amazing book, if you’re thinking of not going to college, or dropping out of school, or whatever. Dan Kennedy is a hard sell: “if you’re not buying this, you are stupid, and you shouldn’t be on my list.” That’s generally the vibe that you get from Dan Kennedy.

John Carltons list is a lot more soft sale: he’s like “I wrote this really cool blog post, while opening up this new programme recently.” All these different spectrums of marketing, you can see which one resonates with you. You don’t have to have to learn copy writing from one guru.

Instead, pick and choose the ones which you think are good. Pick and choose the ones you feel that resonates with you, if you feel you could pursue stuff like that.

Personally for Chris, he resonates a lot with Dan Kennedy, but there are other guys you can check out like: Matt Cooper, Clemens, Evan Pagan, Joel polish. Go out and start studying them, because in order to be good at copywriting, you need to be good at marketing. You just need to understand the fundamentals, otherwise it doesn’t matter what copy you write, it’s not going to be great.

Copy writing is just how you write a sales message, which goes out to the market, and convinces them to raise up their hand, and sign up for that list. Where they’ll put in their credit card details, or go for the upsell.

Copy writing is just part of the message, you also need to have an in depth understanding of marketing in general: you have to know how customers are coming into the business, how leads are being generated, how these are going to be converted in subscribers, fans, referrals, and different things.

Then once you’ve explored all these avenues, start copy writing. It doesn’t matter if it’s good or bad, just write it. You get better at writing, by writing. You don’t get better by reading different books. Of course you need to read, and learn about it to a certain extent.

But past a certain extent, if you’ve read a shit tonne of books that’s enough, start implementing.

Definitely implement everything Chris has mentioned, if you want to get into marketing, or copywriting.

Chris is in the grind stage phase of business: where he’s pulling all nighters, and working crazy hours to make it happen. If you want to reach out to Chris, his email address is Chrischiacopywriting@gmail.com If you want copy from him, or if you’ve got an interesting project to be reviewed, or if you want to bring him on, or work for him, or whatever, contact him via email, and hit him up. He’ll read it within a couple of business days and he’ll get back to you.

If you have any questions for me or Chris, comment below.